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December 19, 2011

I'm really interested in what your doc said, especially about the compromised immune system since that is a major problem with me, I started getting these 'things' and the scabs about a year and a half ago, at the same time my health also deteriorated, and I actually can barely function most days now....severe fatigue being the biggest factor. They have me at a dermatologist, endocrinologist, internist and no one can seem to tell me what theses things are. I went for multiple biopsies, which you can imagine just increases the number of scars.....I use to have almost flawless skin for a guy and now am embarrassed to even wear a short sleeve shirt....plus I have 2 sores on my left arm that will not heal. I know a major problem is like everyone here, I feel I have to get those white things out, whether they are the balls or the little sticklike ones.....they use to come off with the scabs, now are more deep rooted. Did he give you any other recommendations or say anything else about the immune disorder ? I have additionally now been diagnosed with sleep apnia, hypothyroidism, and pituitary disfunction due to a tumor but I'm not sure if they have actually hit the nail on the head yet. I am on all kinds of replacement hormones, chems, etc....none seem to be helping. Recently too I had a 'flareup', was itching ALL over my body - got home and I had these little white things poking out ALL OVER my body, especially the softer skin - they look just like the things under the scabs - pulled alot of them out and now they scabbed up and won't heal....
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January 15, 2012

I had a lot of the same problems you do....turns out I was exposed to mold and am allergic to it...then the allergist wanted to test foods and I am allergic to many! They cause everything as simple as runny nose to headaches, joint and bone pain, stomach problems, memory an cognitive issues, skin itching and big time fatigue. After finding I had so many allergies, I was told to see a allergist/immunologist...because mutitudes of allergies are caused by a compromised immune system. This can be caused taking too many NSAIDS or antibiotics, the chemicals and processing in our foods, etc. There's so much behind all this...but maybe a start for you. Leaky gut syndrome is supposed to be related as well. I keep researching and reading everything I can because a lot of our symptoms are very typical of other diagnosis and drs aren't as familiar with the many allergies, Morgellan's disease, mold toxicity, etc.
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April 14, 2012

You are right it's a combination of too much trash our bodies can't break down so it deposits out our pores and our immune system builds core around the trash to protect from infection ha I figured it out just then lol
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August 14, 2012

so...the scabs appear. You aren't picking your skin?
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February 14, 2015

Those things are parasites. You need Ivermectin (Stromectrol), Doxy-cycline Mono 100 (two times daily), and Sodium Sulfacetamide 10% wash. I had those things for 7 years. It took me 7 doctors to find someone who knew what it was. Your dermatologist needs to do a 3mm punch biopsy. They won't find anything from scraping. Also request blood work for your IgG level (a test of inflammation). If you look up Myiasis, you will see every one of the symptoms you describe. See http://www.morgellonsuk.org.uk/micromyiasis.htm Those things took over when my immune system was weakened by severe illness. I had fatigue, constant itching, hair loss, anemia, insomnia, joint pain, decreased hearing, coughing attacks, you name it. Yours sounds like its at the point of being systemic. The toxins they release in your system down-regulate your immune system and can lead to seizures. The wounds don't heal because the pupae release a protein that dissolves skin cells to make them easily digestible. That is a serious infection. Get help right away.
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December 30, 2015

Dude, I've noticed you commenting all over this post and quite frankly its fucking me off, you have little to no info apart from "they are parasites" you forget to mention what type of parasite, not to mention your symptoms and explanation is completely wrong, you couldn't be further from knowing what this is, due to the fact you don't have it nor have you ever had it, no doubt you've had something else, but these white seed like things are not pupae of any sort, get your head around this fact champ, I am surprised others have not spoken up and told you to shut your mouth, you are incredibly annoying.
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January 15, 2012

This almost sounds like Morgellan's Disease....you might want to check that out on the 'net.
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January 09, 2012

I have been suffering from this scarring and embarassing condition for 5 years now. I HAVE been to several dermatologists, both conventional and naturopathic, and no one can figure this out. I've spent thousands of dollars (uninsured) and had 2 biopsies, both of which found no results, and taken a lot of antifungals and antibiotics, along with natural products like colloidal silver, Vitamin A for healing, Neem oil, etc. If there is no infection it must be something with the sebaceous glands getting plugged up. I agree with so many of the posters here that if you leave them alone they DO NOT heal; they multiply under the scab and itch like crazy. At night I sleep with a bandaid and colloidal silver, but this doesn't seem to help healing. Sometimes when I pull the white "threads" or balls out with tweezers, they stretch up to an inch and are very tough! I am careful to sanitize with hibiclens afterwards. Usually I only have one or 2 at a time, all on my chin, but as soon as one heals up another one forms. I've searched the web for years and have never found an answer, and now I'm terrified this is chronic. I've even done allergy testing, and eliminating the foods & skin products I am sensitive to has not helped.
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January 15, 2012

You should check into Morgellens Disease....your symptoms sound a lot like that. I had a lot of the same things you have but the cause of my sores turned out to be mold related. While testing for that, I found I have many food allergies and my next step is to see an allergist/immunologist. Maybe you can get check for these things to rule them out.
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April 14, 2012

Could be synthetic fibers. Do u poop regularly
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February 14, 2015

Those things are parasites. You need Ivermectin (Stromectrol), Doxy-cycline Mono 100 (two times daily), and Sodium Sulfacetamide 10% wash. I had those things for 7 years. It took me 7 doctors to find someone who knew what it was. Your dermatologist needs to do a 3mm punch biopsy. They won't find anything from scraping. If you look up Myiasis, you will see every one of the symptoms you describe. See http://www.morgellonsuk.org.uk/micromyiasis.htm. The wounds don't heal because the pupae release a protein that dissolves skin cells to make them easily digestible. By the way, it's not that they're "growing back." When you have an open wound, the parasites move in to the sore to eat and lay eggs. Pull some out, others move in.
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December 30, 2015

See here you go again ... talking shit, get off this thread man
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February 02, 2012

Wow, i know exactly what you mean when you say you just have to look at stuff that's part of the obsession, but I have not experienced these white spikes. The closest thing I can relate this to, is when I caught warts in high school, they spread over my body and I had to get them frozen off with a spray gun. When they eventually healed, they all formed scabs. I (of course) picked at these scabs, and when they came off, attached to them was a sort of rubbery plug (like a blackhead but different) and it left behind a hole where this plug had been in the wart, like the pore was really stretched big. I would hate to have these warts again but sometimes I wish I could have that scab picking experience again ha.
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February 09, 2012

This is sound like morgellens disease. I think, you should concern with doctor and try to take proper treatment. Best Of Luck.... http://www.aboutallergy.net/articles/types-of-allergies/skin/latex
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February 29, 2012

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February 29, 2012

this is exactly what I have experienced and the source of my problems. has anyone gotten an answer from a dermatologist as to what this is? i don't think mine understands what i'm talking about.
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April 13, 2012

EVERYONEN SUFFETING PLEASE READ. About 3month ago i startedn with what I thought was pimples on my chin, cheek & forehead that would not heal(i have always had perfect skin). One morning I woke up and each one(had maybye6) had tiny bubbley things that I than noticed white tiny worms coming out every pore of my face, head & hands. Long story sholrt I freaked out went to ER total of 3 times to have noonr believe me even one doctor saw one and still denied it. Anyway I got all the same symptoms as all of u: black & ted dots, hairs on entire body coming alive and squirming and blue& red fibers. Than one day a weird greyish grubby thing with black hairs on front some with suckers, little spikey white things. 2 black dots on one end and some had colored hairs. Worse than twilight zone. One even stood up like catipillarn & opened mouthlike thing at me & tried to go up nose. I caught it & the next day my 5 year old sonnpulled one out his nose. My husband started getting tons of small white worms like on me. I noticed when they r not in u look like piece of rolled toilet paper. I felt helpless. One more time I typed in symptoms concentrating on nose creature. Welp pops flukes and everything fit to a T. What I wasn't getting before was what I was seeing was just a tiny part of the thing in my nose(which burrowed holes in both sides where they like to hide & if I do get one another one takes place. There a lot of stages of flukes from the tiny worms to huge (I had 10" long ones). One antibiotic for one day 3 foses and cured. Just keep intestines healthy with bowel cleanse since peoplr like me with ibs & low immune symptoms get it worse. They r made up mostly of fat which is where scientist r coming up with cellulose. I hope this helps a few people. I am no doctor or scientist just a stay at home mom who was on a mission to get my kids(3) help.
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August 01, 2012

You poor dear. At first when I read your description I thought to myself, what a cool thing to have. Then I looked on Google and found out about Morgellons Disease. What a nightmare. I hope you have gotten well and never have to go through this again.
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April 14, 2012

I thought it to be chemical warfare. Do u people do drugs. Are u dehydrated. Anyway I find that mudd mask draw them out and salycic acid make the k Little worms let go lol anyway then rub them with your fingers and warm water they come right out .use blackhead eraser and fruit mask from local drug store less scarring
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December 30, 2015

You thought it to be chemical warfare ? ? ? ! ! ! god damn, take your medication god damn it, you're nuts
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May 24, 2012

My problem starts with a tiny whitehead which I squeeze and it is extremely painful, the wound gets bigger and clear liquid floods out along with blood. The wound has lots of little white dots that don't come out via squeezing...the resulting scab is picked (as you do!) and the underside has those little white "spikes"...like you I get a strange satisfaction from looking at the little spikes (that resemble what comes out of a blackhead, but hard)...so the scab takes weeks to heal as I'm constantly picking (not for the pain...for the fact I'm cleaning those blocked pores) ....what the hell have I got? My GP says they are coldsores...but they don't tingle and they don't appear on my lips or the corners of my mouth. I also have yellow scabs scattered on my scalp...my Doc gave me Betamethasone...a scalp application that stings like hell itself...but two weeks later and the scabs are still there. I'll never be able to have a very short haircut as I have lots of little bald spots from the picked scabs...are these two things connected? HELP.
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April 03, 2013

OMG betamethasone was the WORST thing to give. It's not coldsores. It's ringworm, which is masked by betamethasone, but proliferates like crazy on it. Seriously, i gotta give a seminar on this or something. Maybe i'll make a youtube video! :)
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July 18, 2012

I am so glad I stumbled across this message board. I just wish I knew what it was. And everyone is right, once all the white spikes and/or balls are picked out, is only when it heals. But in my case, sometimes it does flare up again OR if it finally does heal, a little white bump will be left behind and I will use a needle to pierce it, and almost always a little hard ball comes out. Sometimes, although rarely, it will squeeze out like a snake. And always, if I have one, no others will appear until that one is gone. It's frustrating and even more so when I have one in my eyebrow as we speak that will NOT go away. For some reason, now the heads are not so easy to grasp. IF I ever hear anything that works for me, you can bet I will be back here to share. :)
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July 27, 2012

Are any or most of you diabetics. I was diagnosed with adult onset. My little scabs with the white roots all but went away when I took medicine in on regular basis. I noticed when I stopped taking my medicine, they started cominG back. I mostly get these things on my lower cheek near my lower jaw or towards my temples near my ears. Sometimes I get them on my arms. I hate these things because it looks like most of the pictures I saw of aids, about thirty years ago. I know it is not, but people looking at you do not. My girlfriend does not believe me that they heal up, only after getting the white root out, sometime multiple hairlike white roots with one pull of the entire scab. If the damn thing breaks off in the process, you have it even longer. It is not a habit of picking, but a fact that when the roots are gone, it heals up.
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July 28, 2012

I'm so happy to have read this comment - I feel so crazy doing this! I'm a chronic picker, 12+ years now. It usually starts with any kind of bump, blemish, pimple, bug bite - but then I have to make it 100% worse by digging at it! I too have seen the little spikes - I assumed it was something like pulling out the actual shaft that hair grows out of? They seem to be more clear-ish than white, but yeah - I do get a weird sense of satisfaction when I pull of a scab that actually has something on it..... like some grand accomplishment. I think somewhere in my head that I need to get all those out in order to let things finally heal. All the while knowing all I'm doing is creating a worse scar. I have also seen the little white dots or balls. I call them eggs, but I don't actually think there is anything in them. They are hard and contained, rarely like a regular whitehead or zit. They actually make a little 'snap' sound if I'm able to pinch them out. Otherwise I dig with a needle or tweezers. These are gold! - I look for them all the time to dig out. These generally show up when the wound is mostly healed (not often enough). I've always thought they were maybe fat or cholesterol deposits? But knowing & reading this here now & realizing other people are experiencing this - I think it's probably just a result of us damaging the healing process by constantly digging at the same wound? I really don't like any of the pain, but I feel so productive when I'm doing this! I'm not embarrassed - I am who I am - but I do wish I could actually control it! I'm glad I've found a place where somebody actually GETS IT! Best of luck to all.....
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August 01, 2012

Yes! I love those little white spikes and dots. At first I thought they were whiteheads and squeezed them like zits. I would love to hear that 'snap' sound. Any advice?
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August 06, 2012

Oh my god! I never ever thought anyone did this but me, I sometimes eat them, I know that's so gross but the satisfaction is too great, it's all I can think about sometimes, thankyou for making me feel less alone guys xxxx thankyou thankyou
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August 09, 2012

OMG you guys are hilarious! I always felt so ashamed and alone like i was crazy for picking my scabs for this same reason. I pick and i always examine the scab. If i see the spikes i touch them and sometimes I even try to rip the spikes out of the scab!(which is pointless bc once the scab is removed from my skin it doesnt have an anchor to hold it down while i try to rip off the spikes.) I dont know what is wrong with me. Scabs disgust the **** out of me. I hate the way they look and feel. But i know that they are only there to help me and by picking them im just making things worse... so glad i came to this site. Now i dont feel so alone anymore! You guys rock! By the way i hate the spikes too... i guess thats why i try to enialate them haha!
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August 19, 2012

I have no idea. lol. I just recently picked a scab and some clear liquid came out of it. Do you know what that means?
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August 19, 2012

I get those hard white balls too. And I dont care what anybody says, the sore WILL NOT heal until it's gone.
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August 19, 2012

What are they, anyway? My son gets them too, and he's not a picker, but he has to take the scabs off sores that won't heal so he can get the white ball out. It's the only time he picks and the only reason. I hate those things!
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February 28, 2013

So true!!! If you squeeze to get out in front of the mirror do you ever sense the hard white sandlike pellets shoot onto the mirror?!?
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August 20, 2012

Ok so tonight, I finally picked a non-healing scab I promised myself I would let heal on its own, and there was a long stringy thing attached that left a deep hole in the center of the sore. W.T.F. Was that?!?
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August 21, 2012

I cant believe that I found this site. I also cant believe that im not the only one dealing with this. I swore that I was not going to pick today. It was going well until a half hour ago. I also have those white things under my scab, I call them "Cores" I have tried to let them go, but it never heals unless I remove the cores. I occasionally get the lil white balls too, but not as often. I have been dealing with this since I was a teenager, im now in my 40's. I recall my mother picking her skin. It seems as if I have inherited all her bad habits. Thank you all for being here and making me feel not so alone. Im so embarrassed by this. I am too ashamed to talk to my doctor. Lucky for me, I have a very loving husband who loves me no matter what. He asked me yesterday if I had been picking at my face. It was the first time that I admitted to him that I had. But, I was also able to tell him that I found this site and that im not the only one. You all are giving me hope. Thanks for posting your stories.
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August 23, 2012

Ok, I have these same things. I didn't even know what the heck to call them to google them, and I happened to find this sight. I totally figured out what they are! They're _granulated tissue_. This is a tissue that the body naturally forms as part of the healing process when a WOUND WON'T HEAL. Picking. Duh. *slaps forehead*. Here's the problem. They cause mishaped scars. Pulling them out won't help... it reinjures the wound so they grow right back, and then the scar is even worse. Apparently drs remove GT with silver nitrate. Now I'm freaking out. No. More. Picking.
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August 23, 2012

I too have the same problem, for about 12 years now. Started on my right forearm, spread to shins then knees then right thigh, then gone. Now they have come back on my right arm, shoulder and shoulder blade, lower left cheek, chin and forehead. Dermo said it is an accute allergy to insect bites and prescribed anti histamines morning and night, this some 5 years ago but alas they continue to appear and until the "spikes" are out they just don't heal. Honestly I am obsessed with getting them out but really to try and avert the embaressment of having these things in plain sight. When they were only on my arm, I could hide them with a long sleeve shirt, now I just don't wear anything with short sleeves, but can't really wear a mask.....!!!!!!!!! I have pulled as many as 17 spikes from one of these things in one sitting, but getting them out seems to be harder, tweezers just don't seem to be as effective anymore. Clearly it's an auto immune response but to what? Does anyone have a name for this or are we all just suffering with something the docs don't understand? Any info will be helpful. Thanks for the posts, at least I know I'm not alone.
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February 28, 2013

I know!!! Thank god!!! I'm so tired I making excuses at work having band aids on my face all the time!!! It burs so bad!!! Abreva has helped clear a little bit of the burn. But like you said I don't wanna stop because if I can get all the spikes out then it will go away by the next day. If not my face swells up 10x bigger!!!
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April 03, 2013

It's ringworm in an appearance not commonly taught in med school. That's why docs dont understand. But that's what it is. It's not autoimmune anything, and very easily treatable with just some antifungal cream you can buy over the counter at any grocery store or pharmacy.
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August 26, 2012

I know exactly what you speak of but as of yet have not found a dr. who knows what they are and neither has my sister. When I was young I remember my Mother having a sore or two on her face and trying bizarre things to get them to heal. It skipped my oldest sister, hit the next down sister, skipped my brother, hit me, skipped little sister and now my neice has them and my oldest daughter has them. The odd thing is we ALL started getting them around 30. I went a couple of years without them but I now have one in my chin that will have been there 1 year come Sept. Drs. think we create the problem or make it worse by picking,,,, they have NO clue what these are like. They itch, hurt and absolutely will not go away until the core is out. You can NOT squeeze out the core, it is attached and God help you if it breaks without removing the core and little shaft because the whole process starts all over again. This one has had so many in it that I am really getting pissed. When mine are all out it will literally almost heal up overnight. I do know I have a trigger that will cause me to get one and that is eating too many salted foods and sunflower seeds brought this wicked thing on. I describe them as an upside down exclamation point but haven't found anything that works more than once to heal them except getting the thing out. Keep dry, keep moist, leave alone, pick doesn't matter because nothing will heal it except removal and that is the scarring part. Hate it!!!
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August 26, 2012

Paige, when you say they started at around 30, you are so right. Until I turned 30 I had hardly had a pimple, never mind these horrible things. Since 30 the following has hapened; Malaria 8 times while living in Malawi, got a nasty rash, red blotches on neck, under arms and chest, get pretty itchy in summer but does go with treatment. Do you have anything similar? Reason I ask is to try and determine if all us sufferers have anything in common which may be the key to this nasty, horrid condition. Any other skin issues, allergies, medication you may be taking regularly that we could have in common. I do seem to believe my shower gel has something to do with it, so perhaps some of the hygiene products could be the cause? Sunflower seeds I never eat, except on health bread but very seldom, but have been warned to cut down on the salt by the doc, this due to high cholesterol and hypertention though. I did notice that the use of surgical soap, the red liquid soap the doctors and surgens use seems to clear it up, not the existing ones but it stops new ones, so perhaps this is a condition caused by soething outside our bodies, hence the reference to shower gel, perhaps even material type worn or reaction to some creature that lives on our skin? I find using plasters to be a complete no-no. This seems to irritate the skin around the sore and then new ones pop up almost immediately. What is so incredibly irritating is that sometimes you pull out one "root", "core" or "spike" and the thing clears up only to be followed by another, in a different location, within a few days, and other times they last for months. Have you ever had one that has one core with a number of roots which seem to go down through the skin to the flesh below as if growing up through the skin? I think we should start a blog or something where all those who posted on this forum can communicate and hoepfully we can get to the bottom of the cause. I really don't want this issue for the rest of my natural life.
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August 26, 2012

Up until a few years ago I would have said no, but now, it's a gamble. I get contact dermatitis around my eyes when certain things enter my eyes or skin around them by the airborne route. Things like weeds, trees, dust, mold, chemicals, makeup etc, etc, etc! Even hair coloring can set me off but none of these things trigger the spot. They aren't pimples of the standard variety, for sure. When I was in my 30s though I was okay so, for me, I can't say that mine are an allergy thing. I think, the itching comes from a tiny hair that is in the shaft that can't grow to the top so it grows inward. Yes I have had some that are under layers of skin levels and no one can understand you can feel them without touching them. They hurt and the sensation is there. When you touch the spot I can feel where the core is and the way it hurts and feels to the touch you would think it was a big thing but it is tiny. Crazy, but I know it isn't folliculitis, sp, as my family dr. diagonised it as. I have tried many tricks people have said for pimples only to irritate the healthy skin around it. I wouldn't say I am a skin picker, I am a spot picker and I hate it but until the dang thing goes away it takes over everything!
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August 29, 2012

Thanks Paige, so its not down to anything we have in common, the mystery continues. It is strange how we know just by touch exactly if there is or is not a core. After pulling one out, there is often a second and sometimes more. When you pull the core out, does it give a sort of an itching stinging feeling as it comes out? How long do you leave them after they appear before trying to get the core out?
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August 30, 2012

Exactly how it feels, with a burning sensation also. There are times, during the day, I get that same burning, itch and pain where the core is and that will drive me to trying to get the thing out. If it isn't hurting me I can leave them alone for a day or more but once they get painful then no, I can't. I used to get just one core in an area and when it was out that was it, it was over but not anymore, like you, there can be many! I don't get them anywhere but on my face and usually on my chin. Right now, I am hopeful that this one has exhausted itself and is going away but who knows. It is sad to say, but the last thing I do at night is touch my face and it is the first thing in the morning because these things come up that quick and I am thankful when none arrived.
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March 02, 2013

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April 03, 2013

That's bull. It's ringworm.
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December 08, 2012

Hmmmm.......Also glad not alone n this. I haven't read all of your entries, but this crud has trashed my life at present. Was actually hospitalized!! They think I am CRAZY!!! Closest thing I have been able to find for an answer was online and that was Morgellon's Syndrome (updated version-not from long time ago) I suffer from a list of auto-immune diseases. This one fit me to a "t". Problem is,....try to explain to anyone else (medical field or not) and that's a swift diagnosis for psychosis.
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January 08, 2013

Think it makes no sense to talk about the symptoms and the way how it affects our daily life over and over again. It's depressing. Maybe a survey could help and everyone should take part in this. First, sorry for my bad English, I'm from Europe and it's very important to me to find the reason. We all agree: The white spikes are hard, in open wounds, impossible to squeeze, only with tweezers removable, prevent wound healing. Aged from (20-25/25-35/35-45/45-55/55-65/65-75), Gender, Other Diseases & Treatments, Overweight - Yes/No, Smoker- Yes/No, Skin Picking Disorder Suffer - Yes/No, Regular consumption of alcohol - Yes/No, Stress - Yes/No, Are other family members affected? Yes/No, ...Own Observations. Im the first, 20-25/ female/ Insulin-dependent diabetic/ Insuline, Overweight : No/ Smoker/ Skin Picking Disorder - Yes/ Regular consumption of alcohol: No/ Stress:Yes/ other family members affected: No. Own Observations : More occurrence during menstruation, alway after squeezing deep seated pimples very very hard.
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February 07, 2013

Hi I have self diagnoses with subcutaneous filariasis. Doctors dont know it so much here. Its basically a nematode that grows in the skin, transmitted by bug bite..Asymptomatic at first, but can become a nightmare... see the wiki page on filariasis. There's 8 kinds 3 are subQ types.
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December 30, 2015

Get off the thread, you do not know what you're talking about, fuck sakes
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February 21, 2013

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