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mbr1978 , 01 May 2018

The routine that saved my skin

I suffered from Skin Picking disorder since I was 2... I used to pull my hair in my childhood, then acne in my teen years, then my toenails, then back to adult acne.

Last year there were many changes in my life and stress, anxiety and boredom woke up my compulsions uncontrollably. Since I am almost 40 and had scoriated acne / lesions / scars that would never heal, I wanted to put an end to this... I was so sick of it, and embarrassed.

What changed, was that I admitted to have a problem, opened up to ny husband about it and my trusted close family. So I read all there was to read about this, enrolled to this website/program/forum, wrote a diary and talked to a therapist for a couple of months... did some improvement, but always had fallbacks.

Funny how things indeed seem at the beginning of this journey to be impossible, but if you really reach the bottom, the chances things can get better are very good.

Below my manual. It worked for me, so I wanted to share. The first part is a summary of the opera for compulsive toc / picking. And then, what I did to physically help my skin, which was in itself, a big side of my problems.

Part I

Picking / psychotherapy:

"Urges" (from skinpick.com)
- Understand why you have them;
- ... Avoid triggers!
On the website, you can download the app, and monitor urges / note down sensations etc in a diary. Helps understand triggers, then try to avoid them.

Why / when:
I have urges mainly when my skin has some mild acne. I start picking when I am bored / anxious / stressed. One thing leads to another...

Understand your triggers:
Stress makes my skin oilier, the pimples tend to appear, and the cycle begins. But if I am left with a lot of time on my own - or simply anxious - I end up creating situations for "picking".
Mirrors or bathrooms with strong light show "defects" and should be AVOIDED (if possible, used in "company").
Ps: Today I go out early, I exercise, I focused my energies on various activities and hobbies ... I stay only a little time at home - and when I am, I focus my time/energy on other enriching activities... I play the piano, do some drawing, I even wash the dishes ... EVERYTHING other that entering a bathroom.

Hands off:
The "addiction" can be "focused" (when you do with the intention - ex.: in front of the mirror), or almost "unnoticed" (unconsciously), like touching the face to feel its "texture", etc.
This light touching contaminates the skin and again triggers the process ... so I now watch films with "anti-stress toys" on my hands. I had a new mania also of itching behind the neck and back (where I reach). My brain kind of created this as "competing response." The correct thing would be to stimulate nondestructive actions, but at the same time occupy hands and brain equally.
It can be ok though to negotiate with yourself "other areas", when you have an urge ... cuticles etc - everything to let the face / area to be rested ... but only as a "crutch" in the process.

Make-up:
Another good trick when the skin is kind of bad is getting a pretty good make up in the morning. Helps improve the self-esteem, and with it on the face, we avoid “touching” it. I have to be careful not to allow this routine to turn into another trigger (staying close to yourself/skin/mirror is never good). I walk into the toilet a half hour before I leave, just to give myself time to get things going.
Today I prefer to use the least possible daytime makeup so that my skin is not “clogged".
When the skin starts to look good, just a minimum of concealer and powder / blush - no foundation! Little makeup, made in a bathroom in low light. On a day-to-day basis, I do my make-up in the car - I think it's even better.

Part II

Skin care:
... Those with ocd will always aspire to have a "smooth" skin. So I decided to fight for it by testing various products.

Here is my routine - it cleared my adult acne:
1. Wash my face with soap with salicylic acid.
2. Use the P50 toner from the biologique recherche brand. It cleanses up to the soul, the scent is a bit like vinager ... it helps exfoliate, remove dead cells and debris from make up (which clogs pores). I had some internal pimples/cists on my neck, chest and jaw ... everything came out.
3. Use the vitamin C from skinceuticals - it leaves the skin moisturized but fresh. It is importante to moisturize the skin after cleaning it, it balances it back to normal (if left too dry, it will overproduce oils)
4. I use the egg mellow cream from too cool for school with some teatree oil drops and sunscreen for daytime
5. For the evening, I use instead an MSM cream

* On top of pimples I use only pure teatree oil or the blemish (salycilic acid) from skinceuticals. If the skin does not react, I try the next day salicylic acid gel from neutrogena. I think it's good to switch, it's more efficient ...
(A period that my skin was very inflamed, I used sometimes the led mask from Neutrogena. It was good with cists ... idem the led pen ... I thought that helped to decrease inflammation)

* In open pimples I also use bandaids (hydrocolloid), which help to absorb water / inflammation. Leave it on the skin for 8 hours, and the bumps disappear and healing accelerates

* when I have to remove makeup from the eyes and I have used foundation, I use an oil based makeup remover and the foreo or the sonic brush to clean WELL the skin

What I'm doing aside from this - that helped MUCH:

TCA peelings
- 1x every 15 days, a session. I was using 15% at home, but my skin became resistant to the percentage. After 4-5 times, I did it then at the dermatologist with 25-30%. It was great, it rejuvenates, improves texture and also helps dry blackheads and pimples.
* the skin peels already in the 2-3 day (nothing horrible ... with moisturizer it is not so visible!), For max. 5-7 days.

Micro-needling
- Alternate with TCA the "dermaroller" (1 week tca, 1 week the roll): I put vitamin C ferulic after the session
- Dermaroller also helps to improve some blemishes and scars (acne cannot be active with this)
I bought 2: 1 of 1mm and another of 1.5mm, the deepest one for the worst scars
- I got some mild improvement from dermarollers, and then upgraded to Vivace (microneeding with radio frequency) - I am now on my 4th month. The theory is the same, but the needles are precise and change from 5mm to 2.5-3mm on each different area of the face. Great too, I found it almost painless, 0 downtime. It lightens blemishes, renews skin, creates new collagen, etc.

Medications - I do not know if they influence:
- I started taking NAC, 1200g x day, 4 months ago. It helps contain "urges" in the brain. It might have helped a bit ...

I never slept again with makeup, and I follow this routine every day, morning and night. My skin still has blackheads and mini pimples, of course, but I avoid looking. I agreed with myself to look at a distance of at least 30cm from the mirror. No one comes so close to our skin to check it ... At night, when the risk of "analyzing" is greater, I enter the bathroom when my husband is still awake (on purpose) ... and he keeps "monitoring me" .

Sometimes I squeeze 1-2 pimples, but the next day I regret it. Every single time. But I think I'm finally able to "reason", even because my skin has improved a lot, and then I can convince myself that it is not worth it! This whole process was long (7 months)... but having good skin is the best incentive not to ruin it. Focus your energy in things that make you feel good about yourself, and slowly, your time will be used for better, you will feel powerful again... and skin picking may become something that “”you used to do”...:)

29 Answers
mbr1978
May 02, 2018

(Sorry - posted the long text above on the weong thread :):))

serene
May 03, 2018

The white scars are formed due to very dense collagen fibers which also lack melanin, and therefore cannot create pigment. The thicker and deeper they are, the whiter they appear. I have some which were caused by repetitive picking at the same wound, which delayed healing. In the past I had issues with picking at healing wounds. I felt the need to cleanse them out and re-start the healing process. Kind of crazy and delusional thinking..... unreasonable thought processes seem to be the norm amongst skin pickers! I have been able to get rid of these scars by doing regular heavy peels. The acid would soften the scar tissue to a point where if for example I popped a pimple which formed over the scar, the scar tissue would detach from the healthy skin in a few days and I would peel it off. Once softened, this scar tissue is not able to heal properly. That is why it simply atrophies and detaches by itself. That was the only way I could get rid of them permanently. But today I tried something sort of new on one of these white scars. I needled the scar without damaging the surrounding skin, and then used a q tip dipped in TCA and applied it with some pressure for five minutes. I wonder if the TCA will damage the scar to the point where I can peel it off. This is an experiment, but a few months back I had a semi-healed picked spot over which I did a peel and the acid penetrated the scar tissue, which turned red and I was able to peel off the scar in a few days. So that was just an unexpected positive result. I tried to recreate that same process this time around. So I'll need maybe five days to see what happens. Usually the positive sign is when the scar turns red and does not heal. Then when you get tweezers, you can literally lift the scar off and peel it off. As soon as this foreign body of tissue is gone, the skin tightens up and heals normally in one day. Why I hate these scars so much....they are a reminder of my pain. The terrible moments I have had and the emotional pain I felt. So when I see them, I experience similar feelings and a lot of guilt/regret.

serene
May 03, 2018

Also scar tissue delayes healing, which is the most irritating aspect. Even for very minor picked spots, the healing is easily extended. The body treats scars as foreign tissue due to the uneven, dense, placement of collagen. Have any of your treatments helped to improve the white scars on your chin? Btw, I heard some dermatologists mention that chemical peels can give results which are on par or even better than results from a laser.

mbr1978
May 04, 2018

The thing you did with the needle and tca is the cross method, right? Makes sense. Thanks for the white scar class :). You know so much! You should start an informative blog... it would be a success...!
And yes, both peelings and vivace have improved my white scars, to a point thay they bothered me a little and now not at all. But they were never really an issue to me... I get bothered by the atrophic ones (wholes).

mbr1978
May 04, 2018

Btw: I had problems with picking at healing scars too. Usually stressful phases with not so bad acne that I made up a reason to pick. I had a feeling something was forming inside the scab (sometimes I did remove fibers/fat/cists or whatever they were from inside those poor scabs), and in fact it is how my deepest scars formed (latest years... I’d say the increasing lack of collagen made them worse)

mbr1978
May 04, 2018

The process of the scar detaching like a foreign body was not easy for me to understand. Is this info available online somewhere I can read about? It sounds groundbreaking...! You’re a source of skin information. Do you work in the medical area? If not... you should...!! :)

serene
May 05, 2018

I have tried to search online for this phenomenon that I experienced, being able to permanently get rid of the white scars....but I have been unable to find any info. Derms say that the white scars are the most difficult to get rid of. I'll see if I will be able to recreate it this time around. I used a threading needled cleaned with rubbing alcohol and gently poked holes in the scar. Then applied TCA until the area was fully frosted and white. In the past I did some heavy peeling...so maybe it was just my scars softening to such an extent for this method to work. I'll see this time around. It's difficult to understand....when it first happened to me I was confused and didn't even understand that what I was removing was scar tissue. But I learned that upon healing, the white scar would not be there anymore...it would be perfect even toned skin in the healed spot. I just stumbled upon that method by coinsidence...in the beginning it would even sort of freak me out. Until I understood what was happening. The scar, upon damage, would soften and dislodge from the healthy skin around it. Similar to how you peel off skin after a chemical peel...except scar tissue is dense, thick, and rubbery in texture. So I knew it wasn't skin and not a scab because it's white/cream in color and pliable. Have you seen how scars look under the skin? If you watch dermabrasion videos, you will see. I'll have to find a video to show you. They basically shave them off with the device. But the scars stand out distinctly from the healthy tissue. Again,wish I could find something about this process online, but have not been able to find any information. Using my own skin as a guinea pig for now. I am a bit reluctant to do the heavy peels again...it would take me a full week just to peel. We are talking 7 days....then another week for the skin to normalize. So two weeks for the entire process. A big hassle but very effective results... just too much hassle as of now.

serene
May 05, 2018

Here is a link of dermasanding, a form of dermabrasion. You can see how the scar tissue looks whiter than the surrounding skin and has a thicker consistency. This is what they sand down. The scar in the video is quite large and therefore easily visible. The consistency of my white scars is the same, except mine are small in diameter. What I did this time around is not TCA cross method. TCA cross is when they apply a very high percentage of TCA directly on an indented scar in order to make it rise up. My scars are flat, it's just that they are whiter than the surrounding skin. I poked small holes in a scar in order for the TCA to penetrate and soften the scar tissue in order to try and detach it from the surrounding skin. I used 15% TCA until the area fully frosted. The goal is to permanently remove the scar...but it has to soften to a great extent for the method to work. Again, it's an experiment. Since I have been doing only occasional light peels, my scars might not be pliable enough for this to work. I'm just trying to see if I can remove these scars without having to resort to the heavy peeling with the two week healing process.

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