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mdmadre , 16 May 2010

New here... but not so new to picking

I began picking my face (zits, black heads, anything I thought was a blemish) when I was in high school. Now I am 25 and I have tried for years to stop but I cant:( I sit here in bed crying and typing this. Why cant I succeed at this one task of quitting something I know is so bad for me to do? I picked so much tonight and feel so bad about myself right now. I had gone for like 2 wks with out picking and I completely ruined that tonight. I feel like a monster. My husband knows about my issue... but he doesnt understand.. now he just gets mad and says its ridiculous I cant stop doing this to myself. anyone ever try having a quitting partner on here? like making a quit date and helping each other stick to it (accountability) ? Anyone interested in becoming my quit partner? I feel like I just need to talk to people who understand:(
28 Answers
Jena8604
May 17, 2010
Hi, I am 24 and pick my legs, mostly but have bouts of picking my arms and chest, somtimes my face. I am doing good right now but i'm scared about slipping up. I'd love to talk to you about quitting together...let me know :) hang in there, girl. we all have bad days. <3
Bitterbrew
May 17, 2010
Finding this forum really has helped me not to pick and I have been reading and coming to the forum everyday since I found it. My mom came to visit this weekend and I wasnt on the computer so last night I had a picking frenzy and I was doing so well. I feel terrible too. But I think reading this forum and finding out other people have the same issue helps and we all support each other. i feel awful about last night but I think I have to keep up with reading the forum at least every night which is the time that is bad for me and picking.
foreverthere
May 18, 2010
Im new here too, and this is my first time ever looking up my problem. Im only 15 now, but various parts of my body are scarred up and it looks like I was in an accident. I try to cover it up, but people still see it sometimes. I feel so relieved though to know that Im not alone. When I searched "skin picking" I read through all of the symptoms and ways it is done, and I fit everyone. Its scary that I do this, and that it is a disorder, but now I know what is wrong with me. Even after reading everything, I still picked, and I feel terrible, but Im gonna try to quit again.
wildflower
May 18, 2010

In reply to by foreverthere

no, you're definitely not alone. and it's hard to address it alone. i suggest talking to your parents about this and your doctor. the solution for you might be a joint effort between all of you. if not them, your school counsellor, school nurse, someone to talk to that you respect and that respects you. share this site with them and what you learn here and work together to put together a plan to put into action. with a good plan, a support team, and lots of conviction, you can do it. you're young, intelligent, and it's relatively early so there's a good chance you can nip this in the bud. be strong. be determined. you can do it !!
mdmadre
May 19, 2010

In reply to by foreverthere

wildflower is right. you are not by any means alone. Keep trying to quit and use this site to help you! 15 was around the age I started picking:( See my post on Joining My Quit Program. We CAN conquer this terrible disorder!!
sorarail
May 18, 2010
Hi Mdmadre I am 26 and have been compulsively picking since I was 12, starting maybe a month after my first period. I began when a close cousin said to pick my blackheads on a vacation in mexico. I went into the bathroom and from that time on, I have been in agony with this problem. Most people thought it was a teenage phase, but it took over my life. I have lost hope and wanted to die and done some pretty drastic things. School was hell for me. I was a cross country runner and did my make-up in the shower, trying to unfog the mirror long enough to cover up my wounds out of shame that everyone would see how bad it really was...and it got pretty gory and still gets this way. I did not date much. After running (because I would not run without make-up on), the make-up would get into the wounds, if i had recently picked them, and burn terribly. I was much worse in high school and college with picking than I am now, but it can still get very bad. (I, too, am writing because I just picked). I would pick in the mirror and wipe the "ooze" onto the mirror. I never would have had an acne problem, but the damage to my skin became so bad that I think I did end up getting painful pimples under the skin, no doubt due to infections, bleeding, covering fresh wounds with make-up in an effort to get out of the house. I develped strange phobias of rain, for instance, because I thought that when it rained my makeup went into my pores more and caused more pimples. I did not eat certain foods...ice cream, peanut butter...and I am still wary--though much less so--of eating certain foods, drinking coffee, etc... After college, I went home and generally did not go out of my parents' house except for a few trips out, but I would spend my days sleeping and nights picking and back in that awful cycle, sometimes picking up to several hours. This all came to a head when I had to move out. I did some what better but not too well. I started seeing someone (whom I am still with-about two years now), and he moved in. This was hell for me. I did not want him to know, and I would wash my face when he was already asleep and wake up before him and fix my make-up. Picking became difficult, and I ended up lying to him and telling him the reason I was in the bathroom so long was due to nosebleeds (although, sometimes this was true, as nosebleeds were common if I was picking my nose and putting pressure on it). Eventually I told him, and he was not grossed out, but like your husband, he does not get it and I get the feeling that he probably doesn't want to talk about it with me...so even now I do not talk about it. We went hiking in a camper for three months, and these months were also excruciating (In some ways, I was testing myself to see in what conditions I would still do this to myself...and it tuens out that in below freezing, with a picket mirror in the bushes, I would still do it. However, this time period became one of trust for me also, even when he did not understand and became angry that I would do it to myself. He was a person--not family--who seemed to genuinely care, knowing the full extent of the problem. Sex was/is difficult sometimes. I now wash my face when we go to bed, but I do not look at him and have never looked at him without make-up in the morning or at night...it is absurd, but I have a lot of shame and confusion dealing with this...not being able to do basic things like going swimming or running anymore...(out of phobia of sweat and skin impact)..I used to schedule classes early in the morning so I would be forced to get up and get ready and not dwell in the mirror, but i often ended up missing class. I do not want to do this. I would refute anyone who claims I am a masochist. I think that it began as a coping mechanism and quikly became a habit...and all kinds of mental coping mechanisms added nuance to the habit....making it more of a phantom really that I had no control over. My most recent hope (though I know I need to probably try out therapy again) has--aside from living with a person who has been-for the most part-a calming presence in my life-had actually been going to the dermatologist (my mom made the appointment...I thought it was the wrong place to start but, in fact, my skin was so painful back in february (I had just started school again) that I was worried I had an infection. Showing the derm. my skin in that awful lighting, with no make-up, was terrifying. My anxiety was so awful that I could hardly speak (which is not like me) and ended up just crying in the room with her. I think she was even amazed at how bad it really was--I have become very good at covering my skin. She recommended several psychiatrists and gave me a box of sample cream to help the healing. I don't want to market cream but I will--mimeyx cream. I also am taking sulfameth/trimethoprim (the generic for bactrum?...not sure exactly). I have been doing this for three months, and my skin, originally, healed so well that I was spending only fifteen minutes getting ready in the morning and did not have the urge to pick because I was overwhelmed and excited. However, the problem does not go away. I still pick and-it seems-more so now that I think this cream can just rapidly heal the wound? I'm not sure...my skin still looks a great deal better than it did...I am going to go running tomorrow...I occasionally show half of my face in bed, watching TV at night..on a good night. School was less a stress because I had more time to focus with less time being spent in the bathroom. Also going back to the dermatologist on a monthly basis gives me a goal...I want to show her that it is helping...thought this can be a bit silly since I am still picking. Sometimes, when I set goals, I can force myself to stop entirely for about a week, but usually, the ruge comes back...I end up disgusted by one little spot, zooming in in the mirror and suddenly unable to stop, losing track of time. I read in a local paper on girls who cut and how the wounding also causes a chemical release of whatever it is that creates comfort? Not sure...but this made a lot of sense to me. Face picking is a very silent and socially "unacceptable" reaction to stress, bad relationships, etc...I am sure that I had poor self esteem, and I know that my anxiety is occasionally not too great. When I was 16, I thought I had BDD and told my therapist this. I do not think that anymore...I do not link this to hair pulling either..because for me, it is a very visual problem...it has to do with your direct image, with your acceptance of yourself maybe...seeing in the mirror and numbing yourself through the process of picking? I'm not sure. I know that I want to get better and not to die like I did a couple of years ago. I am going to keep trying. One therapist told me that the reason I did it was to create a cycle of hoping and being let down...but I'm not sure about this. I do not think I pick to reach an apex of pain that I will then be able to hope myself out of. As though I enjoyed this cycle...it is a very confusing thing and I do think it is a chemical thing in the brain. Some medications may help...I have not had any luck with anti-depressants. Maybe I gave up on them too soon. I also have some issues with taking antidepressants...though I do not want to be too vocal about them because I realize that a lot of people do very well on them...and that it is a matter of searching for the "right fit" Anyway, I want to let you know (and perhaps myself in writing) that all is not lost. We stuggle, and our struggles remain as reminders on our faces...which makes it (I think more difficult to escape) People do care about you even if they don't understand...your husband is probably mad because it pains him that you have this consuming you instead of other things you love in life. It is also a very deceptive habit. Sometimes, you go several days thinking--and I believe truly thinking--you are on your way out of it. This is perhaps naive, but it is what keeps you going. You have to force yourself to get out of the mirror, get dim the lighting for the mirrors you use, keep other things in your hands (a cat to pet, a stress ball (this never worked for me). Also, part of this issue, for me, is aggression. I am aggressive by nature I think--type A personality. If you are not active--physically I mean--you will only steep yourself further into your private pain of utter stagnation. Going out into the world is crucial even though it is uncomfortable...maybe you don't have it as bad as I have? I think that anyone who "has it" understands these things though. If you ever want to talk...and not me so much writing, let me know. I am a good listener and think it would benefit me also to hear from others. Katie
mdmadre
May 19, 2010

In reply to by sorarail

thanks for sharing your story. i am so sorry you got to the point of wanting to die. My picking was very very bad in high school and college now its not that bad.. but still bad enough that my little sister told me a few weeks ago, "Its looks like you got in a fight with a cat and the cat won." My whole family knows about my issue. They have tried different comments to try and make me quite... some have made me cry... but i realize they love me and dont want to see me do this to myself. I am a type A personality also. I am a medical student... I pains me that I have achieve so much in my life...yet I cant overcome this picking disorder: / But ...We CAN kick this very very terrible disorder though!! Check out my new post to Join My Quit Program. I am on day 4 and doing very well. It is really time for me to stop. I know we all need each others encouragement though. Accountability is so important.
Kait
June 03, 2010

In reply to by sorarail

Katie, I identify with you very much. I used to have many of the same fears such as eating certain foods. I found it very difficult to go and work out because I was scared it would make my face worse and I always wore make-up during. I would also cover freshly picked pimples with make-up. It never got completely out of control until I took a needle to my nose. I have no idea what posessed me to do it either. It was just sitting there and one day I picked it up and used it. That's when I had my breakdown and I realized I do have a serious problem and now the reminder is there on my nose which I never liked to begin with. I feel like I can't go on, I have been suicidal. It inspires me that you felt that way before and are still trying to keep going. I wish I had gotten help sooner. I have been doing this for many years now and then it suddenly became worse than ever before, possibly the birth control pill I was on and the severe stress I was under. I don't know. Stress seems to make the desire to pick unbearable. Even though I know I am doing more damage, I can't seem to stop. I hate myself so much right now. I've never felt that way before. I used to be confident and felt good about my appearance but now I feel awful. I know I used to have better skin too. That's what kills me. I would sit in my room using the 5x magnification mirror, the worst thing ever for people like us. I never made the connection that the mirror was an issue either. It has been like an addiction and now my eyes are wide open. I feel like it's too late, I've done too much damage although others assure me it's not that bad, worse in my eyes, and that it can be fixed. I keep thinking that I don't want it to be fixed, I just want to go back and never do it to begin with, never get that mirror that made it so much worse. I tried to talk to my mom about it and she doesn't understand. She doesn't want to admit I have a problem. She tells me to just stop. If only it were so easy! I would have stopped years ago if I could have. I really never knew it was a disorder. It breaks my heart to think that I could have gotten help sooner and maybe stopped or minimized the damage. There is no way it should have gotten to this point, the point where I can barely function and am not sure my life is worth living. I have isolated myself so much, even from friends and family. When I became depressed, I started isolating and the only person I have left to talk to is my boyfriend. We had plans to live together after college but he moved in with his aunt because he didn't know how to help me. We've been talking on the phone and I've tried to explain what's wrong with me but I don't know if he really gets it. He wants to help, but doesn't know how and I think the way I was behaving scared the hell out of him. Anyway, it gave me some peace of mind to know that there are others who are dealing with the same issue and have been able to continue with life. I truly hope I can get to that point. Kait
mdmadre
May 19, 2010
thank you for all the comments! I am so relieved to know I am not allow in this world and their are many people out there that know exactly what I am going through! Check out my new post on Join My Quit Program!! We CAN do this!!
lifeisbeautiful
May 22, 2010
hey mdmadre, i'm in med school too and i am right there with you on wanting to quit! i have been skin picking my face for 23 years. i will be your quit partner! we need to help ourselves before we can help our patients. let's be in touch.
mdmadre
May 26, 2010

In reply to by lifeisbeautiful

hurray...unfortunately:) I am glad I am not the only med student with this issue!! How should we do this quit partner thing??!! I am on day 11 of not picking in the mirror but I am still scratching while I study and drive. : / Any suggestions
starfish
May 22, 2010
YESSSS!! I am in your exact boat. 2 weeks I went and thought I was pick free but all week I have picked and I JUST stopped 5 mins ago. I picked for 45 mins and now my face looks horrible. Im so depressed about it. UGH! I would love to be your partner. My bf is the same way as your husband. I am 24 and he is 25 and if I am even in the bathroom too long hes like "BAAAAABE...WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" And I lie!! That's how bad it is! Ugh. I can't believe I've done it again. Today was bad. I am with you!
pink_flamingo85
May 23, 2010

In reply to by starfish

I do the same things. My bf knows about it, we haven't talking about it, but I know he can see the evidence. The other night we were watching a movie and I had to use the rest room, I did so and then started picking. He was yelling asking what was taking so long and I made up some stupid lie! Its like I can't walk past a mirror without looking at myself and then doing something!
pink_flamingo85
May 23, 2010
Hi! I just found this site tonight. I have been picking at myself since I was a child. I used to always have scars and scabs on me becuse I couldnt stop myself. I looked up the information tonight because I knew something had to be done. My face broke out about a week ago and it looks horrible now! I have popped and picked until there are sores all over my face. When I came home from work I went straight to my bathroom and proceded to pick all the scabs off. In my head I keep telling myself to stop, but then I keep telling myself they have to be off. But once I'vedone it I feel so horrible I want to hide!! I've got scars from doing this, but I've been lucky to not have really bad ones. I'm 25 and work to advise people on beauty, but I feel horrible telling people about makeup or something they can do for their face/body when I can't even stand the site of my own! I just wanted to say that I also want to work on quitting!! Its embarassing because I can't wear tank tops because I pick at my back and always try and have my hair down because I pick at my neck also. I feel gross for just talking about it, but I hope that talking will be a good thing! And I feel much better knowing that I am not alone!! I suffer from anxiety and always wondered if that was one of the causes. Even as I'm sitting here reading everyones comments I wam just picking at really nothing but the habit is there. I want to cry because I realize I do have a problem and that I am not alone. Thank you all for putting your stories and comments on here ,it really helps to know I am not alone in this and that with support I can over come this!!
wildflower
May 23, 2010
i think that it's time to get this out of the closet. how about everyone agreeing to consult with their doctors and admit openly to them everything that is divulged here. the obsessiveness, the compulsiveness, the need. everything. if medication is what it will take to assist with addressing the disorder, perhaps it will be prescribed. if therapy is indicated, perhaps it will be prescribed. if there is advice to be obtained, perhaps it will be given. but with the truth out in the open and a more honest communication between patient and health care provider at least that base will be covered toward a resolution that is so dearly wanted. yes, coming out to of the closet is one of the hardest things to do but it might be the most imperative if there is a skin condition or infection that must be addressed first and foremost. once that has been stricken off the list, then plans can be put together regarding diet, skin care regimens, stress/anxiety reduction measures, therapies, vitamins, supplements, support systems and the like can be brought together in a plan. but the first step would be opening up to the health care provider to get that medical advice once full disclosure has been made. what say? it is time that doctors address this issue/compulsion and the apparent severity of it. hiding it from them has done no good whatsoever. i have come clean with my doctor and dermatologist and frankly it feels good having done that. i am less ashamed. i am more progressive in my self care as a result. and believe me, when i need my dermatologist, he'd better be ready !! because i will. but for the time being, i am owning up to my part in the ordeal and am trying my best to be good to my skin and i aim to get better and eventually get my behaviour part of it behind me.
flgrl0821
May 23, 2010

In reply to by wildflower

I am with you wildflower, I have an appt with a dermatologist in the beginning of june and I fully intend on telling him the truth. I have gone before and didn't say anything and as a result I was given some lotion for KP (which I do not have i just didn't have any scabs that day) and sent on my way. I was too scared to tell them back then and as a result I did not get the correct treatment. I am the only one to blame in that situation and I caused a great dis-service to myself and to my recovery by not owning up to this disease. I realize that I need help to heal my skin and obviously whatever I am doing on my own is either the wrong thing or just not strong enough. I want this to be over and I want nice skin so if i have to be embaressed for a few minutes to do so then I will do it!!
wildflower
May 23, 2010

In reply to by flgrl0821

it is great that you recognize that what you are doing is not being effective. it is also important to realize the psychological basis of this disorder and be willing to address it as prescribed. this is a serious disorder and i believe physicians are frustrated by what they consider to be patient self abuse and of course, why wouldn't they be frustrated with it if you really think of it. your doctor needs to hear that you are very serious about addressing your behaviours. acknowledging them is first and then committing to doing no further harm is second, along with whatever is prescribed even if it is antidepressants or the like. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785390/ is an interesting read.
mdmadre
May 27, 2010

In reply to by wildflower

easier said than done I am afraid.... especially being a medical student. Some how I feel more ashamed b/c of this fact. Not only that but my dermatologist is really really bad a being patient centered!! And I cant switch b/c he is the only derm in the area that participates with my insurance. He just wanted to put me on antibiotics... and when I asked for how long he said well if you want clear skin then you'll have to take them forever. Not only that but I can definitely say most docs (even dermatologists) dont know much about this disorder IF they even know about it at all!! Not all docts are created equal! Believe me... I am shocked that some of my colleagues even got into medical school. they can refer you to a psych... went and saw one... she was terrible. I refused to go on drugs. especially since i know all the darn side effects and i am pregnant so its a no as far as i am conserned. I eat all organic and have a very balanced diet . I take vitamins and have a skin care regimen. The thing that worked the best for me was hypnotherapy!!! I was pick free completely with no desire to pick for a month ..... till i found out I had a miscarriage (in Feb). I have recently started Chi Lel Qigong for stress relief (med school kinda has lots of stress at times... studying 70+ hrs a week..... while being a wife and mom... wouldnt trade it for anything but stress just comes with it) The Qigong has worked very well to reduce stress!! I eventually am going to do another hypnotherapy session once I save enough money (its kind of expensive... not super expensive ($80/hr) but my hb and i just started dave ramsey's FPU class -- amazing by the way-- so it will take a few months. sorry wildflower... I dont mean to disregard the importance of telling a health care provider by any means. Just saying there are many factors that come into play.

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